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Linuxoví hráči byli vyhnáni z World of Warcraft

Pane demagogu, co takhle si precist i ten zbytek odstavce 4 zvlaste pak pismeno B/iii a B/iv. A k tomu samozrejme odstavec cislo 5.

ja to mam precitane uz x krat a ovela skor nez sme sa tu o tom vobec zacali bavit... ale aby kazdy vedel o com, tak:

B: You agree that you shall not, under any circumstances,
(iii) host, provide or develop matchmaking services for the Game or intercept, emulate or redirect the communication protocols used by Blizzard in any way, including without limitation through protocol emulation, tunneling, packet sniffing, modifying or adding components to the Game, use of a utility program or any other techniques now known or hereafter developed, for any purpose, including without limitation unauthorized network play over the Internet, network play utilizing commercial or non-commercial gaming networks, or as part of content aggregation networks;

toto je komplet odsek o neoficialnych wow serveroch beziacich na wowemu, mangose, wowwow, wowd alebo ludmile. Pojednava o samotnom protokole a nekomercnych (ilegalnych sietach)... o nicom inom.


B: You agree that you shall not, under any circumstances,
(iv) facilitate, create or maintain any unauthorized connection to the Game or the Service, including without limitation any connection to any unauthorized server that emulates, or attempts to emulate, the Service. All connections to the Game and/or the Service, whether created by the Game Client or by other tools and utilities, may only be made through methods and means expressly approved by Blizzard. Under no circumstances may you connect, or create tools that allow you or others to connect, to the Game's proprietary interface other than those expressly provided by Blizzard for public use.

zas komplet odstavec o tom, ze sa s wow clientom mozes pripajat vyhradne na oficialne game servery, pouzivat oficialny service a blizzardom schvalene autorizacne postupy (tie riesi wow client - trochu zmrsenu SRP6 [http://srp.stanford.edu/design.html]).



5. Consent to Monitor. WHEN RUNNING, THE GAME MAY MONITOR YOUR COMPUTER'S RANDOM ACCESS MEMORY (RAM) FOR UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAMS RUNNING CONCURRENTLY WITH THE GAME. AN “UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM” AS USED HEREIN SHALL BE DEFINED AS ANY THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ANY “ADDON,” “MOD,” “HACK,” “TRAINER,” OR “CHEAT,” THAT IN BLIZZARD'S SOLE DETERMINATION: (i) ENABLES OR FACILITATES CHEATING OF ANY TYPE; (ii) ALLOWS USERS TO MODIFY OR HACK THE GAME INTERFACE, ENVIRONMENT, AND/OR EXPERIENCE IN ANY WAY NOT EXPRESSLY AUTHORIZED BY BLIZZARD; OR (iii) INTERCEPTS, “MINES,” OR OTHERWISE COLLECTS INFORMATION FROM OR THROUGH THE GAME. IN THE EVENT THAT THE GAME DETECTS AN UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM, THE GAME MAY (a) COMMUNICATE INFORMATION BACK TO BLIZZARD, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION YOUR ACCOUNT NAME, DETAILS ABOUT THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM DETECTED, AND THE TIME AND DATE THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM WAS DETECTED; AND/OR (b) EXERCISE ANY OR ALL OF ITS RIGHTS UNDER THIS AGREEMENT, WITH OR WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE TO THE USER.

budeme si to musiet asi prelozit, lebo evidentne po anglicky nevieme. Cize:

HRA MOZE MONITOROVAT ram TVOJHO PC A HLADAT NEUTORIZOVANE PROGRAMY BEZIACE SUBEZNE S HROU. “NEAUTORIZOVANY 3RD PARTY PROGRAM” V TOMTO PONATI JE DEFINOVANY AKO AKYKOLVEK “ADDON,” “MOD,” “HACK,” “TRAINER,” ALEBO “CHEAT,” KTORY: (i) UMOZNUJE CHEATOVANIE AKYMKOLVEK SPOSOBOM; (ii) UMOZNUJE UZIVATELOVI ZMENIT ALEBO HACKNUT HERNY INTERFACE, PROSTREDIE, A/ALEBO SKUSENOSTI (moja poznamka: skusenosti hernej postavy) AKYMKOLVEK BLIZZARDOM NEPOVOLENYM SPOSOBOM; ALEBO (iii) NARUSAT, “TAZIT Z,” ALEBO INYM SPOSOBOM ZHROMAZDOVAT INFORMACIE Z ALEBO CEZ HRU. v TAKOM PRIPADE, KEDY HRA ZISTI NEAUTORIZOVANY 3RD PARTY PROGRAM, KLIENT MOZE (a) ZASLAT INFORMACIU BLIZZARDU, VRATANE TVOJHO PRIHLASOVACIEHO MENA, DETAILOCH O ZIZSTENOM NEAUTORIZOVANOM 3RD PARTY PROGRAME, A CASE A DATUME KEDY BOL NEAUTORIZOVANYM 3RD PARTY PROGRAM ZISTENY; A/ALEBO (b) UPLATNIT NIEKTORE ALEBO VSETKY PRAVA V TEJTO ZMLUVE, S ALEBO BEZ UZIVATELOVHO PREDCHADZAJUCEHO VAROVANIA.

teraz ked uz vieme o com piseme - bud taky laskavy a napis, ktory bod, usek, alebo aspon slovo pojednava o tom, ze musis pouzivat operacny system Windows? Linux nie je nic, co by menilo packety, sniffovalo, utocilo, menilo herny interface, herne prostredie alebo nebodaj rychlost pribudania skusenosti postav v hre. Neumoznuje priamo cheatovanie, neemuluje ziadne gameservery, ... Linux NEPORUSUJE. A ked uz som si s tym dal tolko namahy, poprosim reakciu.

Zksute si prelozit ten 5 odstavec jeste jednou, spcialne vetu:

"... RUNNING CONCURRENTLY WITH THE GAME. AN “UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM” AS USED HEREIN SHALL BE DEFINED AS ANY THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ANY ..."

Vas prekled je velmi nepresny, doporucuji venovat pozornost sluvkum "ANY" a "INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION".

"ANY" - akykolvek
"INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION" - vratane a bez obmedzenia. Toto slovne spojenie je standardnou sucastou kazdej anglicky pisanej zmluvy. Viac si mozete precitat na strankach ceskej advokatskej komory [http://www.cak.cz/files/855/BA0607.pdf] v bode, ktory sa venuje zmluvnym obmedzeniam. Pripadne si mozete pozriet anglicko-cesky preklad EUPL [http://www.oss.cz/download/eupl-micr-analyza.pdf]

Preklad je relativne presny. Nie som ani vystudovanim pravnik a ani lingvista.
No a k spornemu "... RUNNING CONCURRENTLY WITH THE GAME. AN “UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM” AS USED HEREIN SHALL BE DEFINED AS ANY THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ANY ..."

I ked je to teraz veta vytrhnuta z kontextu, tak subezne s hrou nieco bezat musi, jedine ze by si blizzard dodaval bootovatelne CD/DVD s vlastnym operacnym systemom. Na to aby bola porusena EULA, musi byt vsak splnene poziadavky:
1. UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM - samozrejme, linux je z pohladu blizzard 3rd party software,
2. RUNNING CONCURRENTLY WITH THE GAME - samozrejme, hra bezi vdaka tomu, ze medzi nou a hardware je operacny system,
3. INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ANY “ADDON,” “MOD,” “HACK,” “TRAINER,” OR “CHEAT,” - tu narazame na problem, lebo linux nie je ziaden addon, mod, hack, trainer a ani cheat. Ani sa tak neprejavuje ako je nasledne pisane v bodoch (i, ii a iii)

Ak si vsimnete, tak medzi "UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM" a "RUNNING CONCURRENTLY WITH THE GAME" a "INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ANY “ADDON,” “MOD,” “HACK,” “TRAINER,” OR “CHEAT,”" nie je ziaden "OR". Z toho plynie, ze linuxovy uzivatel EULA v tomto bode porusovat nemoze.

Este podotknem, ze ja WoW nehravam ani na windowse a ani na linuxe... ak by ma vsak blizzard pripravil o hernu postavu, riesil by som to zalobou.

Citacia z WOW webu:

Unapproved Third Party Software

A third party program is any file or program that is not a part of the World of Warcraft software, but is used to gain an advantage in the game, such as increasing your movement speed or teleporting from one place to another beyond what is allowed by game design. It also includes any programs that obtain information from the game that is not normally available to the regular player or that transmit or modify any of the game files. Normally, this classification does not include UI modifications, except those UIs that require an external application to function.

Any external applications that are used in conjunction with World of Warcraft can cause quite a few unwanted side effects. Some of the major possible results of the use of third party programs can be instability of the game to the point that a player "crashes" from the game quite often. External programs can also be used to transmit viruses, spyware, and other unwanted programs into a player's computer. Third party programs can also be used to obtain information from the player's computer, such as account, password, and personal information.
If a player is found to have used such a program, he/she may:

* Be temporarily suspended from the game
* Have further action taken, up to and including account closure, based on the intent of the program "

Podla mna to jasne ukazuje na hocijaky cheat, ale nie emulacne prostredie/api implementacie. Cedega/Wine neumoznuje ziskat vyhodu oproti inym hracom. Ano mozno sa da pouzit na aplikovanie nezistitelnych cheatov, ale to vyzaduje kus viac umenia ako pod windowsom a je obtiaznejsie. Myslim ze Blizzard bude bud musiet doplnit niekde zoznam "zakazanych 3rd party software" alebo odskodnit linuxovych hracov. Zjavne neporusuju licenciu a su za to diskriminovani.

Chcel by som este podotknut, ze Blizard, ani keby chcel, by nemohol od svojich pouzivatelov vymahat, aby pouzivali s ich hrou nejaky konkretny operacny system. Mohli by maximalne oznacit niektory system za "podporovany" a odmietnut technicku podporu tym ostatnym (cize odmietnut riesit problemy cez hotline apod.)

Avsak pouzivatela nemoze ziadna licencna zmluva nutit, ani keby chcela, aby si ku hre kupil aj niektory konkretny operacny system. Bolo by to v priamom rozpore s platnou legislativou v Europskej Unii. Takato cast licencnej zmluvy, ktora by to pozadovala, by bola s vysokou pravdepodobnostou neplatna. Podla odvaznejsich pravnickych nazorov dokonca plati uzus, ze ak je neplatna niektora cast zmluvy, tak je neplatna zmluva cela.

Takze Linuxovi hraci su v kazdom pripade poskodeni a mali by ziadat o napravu, pripadne nahradu skody.

vsechny hry od Blizzardu maji nativni port pro Mac

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