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Nicméně, ať to čtu, jak to čtu, tak tam nikde nevidím, že by MS někomu bránil v instalaci jiného prohlížeče. Když tam něco takového najdeš, rád si to přečtu.

Aha, no to vzhledem k tomu, ze neumis cist, asi bude opravdu obtizne.

U.S. v Microsoft – Court's Finding of Facts: Microsoft's Res­ponse to the Browser threat.

89. At the time Microsoft presented its proposal, Navigator was the only browser product with a significant share of the market and thus the only one with the potential to weaken the applications barrier to entry. Thus, had it convinced Netscape to accept its offer of a „special relationship,“ Microsoft quickly would have gained such control over the extensions and standards that network-centric applications (including Web sites) employ as to make it all but impossible for any future browser rival to lure appreciable developer interest away from Microsoft's plat­form.

91. Although Netscape declined the special relationship with Microsoft, its executives continued, over the weeks following the June 21 meeting, to plead for the RNA API. Despite Netscape's per­sistence, Microsoft did not release the API to Netscape until late October, i.e., as Allard had warned, more than three months later. The delay in turn forced Netscape to postpone the release of its Windows 95 browser until substantially after the release of Windows 95 (and Internet Explorer) in August 1995. As a result, Netscape was excluded from most of the holiday selling season.

92. Microsoft similarly withheld a scripting tool that Netscape needed to make its browser compatible with certain dial-up ISPs. Microsoft had licensed the tool freely to ISPs that wanted it, and in fact had cooperated with Netscape in drafting a license agreement that, by mid- July 1996, needed only to be signed by an authorized Microsoft executive to go into effect. There the process halted, however. In mid-August, a Microsoft representative informed Netscape that senior executives at Microsoft had decided to link the grant of the license to the resolution of all open issues between the companies. Netscape never received a license to the scripting tool, and as a result, was unable to do business with certain ISPs for a time.

Atd. atd. atd. Prijemne pocteni.

Ono je to vubec krasne pocteni, jak to se vsemi mysli MS dobre a jak jim chudinky ublizuji, protoze jsou uspesni. Napr. 116. Whereas Microsoft tried to convince Netscape to move its business in a direction that would not facilitate the emergence of products that would compete with Windows, Microsoft tried to convince IBM to move its business away from products that themselves competed directly with Windows and Office. Microsoft leveraged the fact that the PC Company needed to license Windows at a competitive price and on a timely basis, and the fact that the company needed Microsoft's support in many more subtle ways.When IBM refused to abate the promotion of those of its own products that competed with Windows and Office, Microsoft punished the IBM PC Company with higher prices, a late license for Windows 95, and the withholding of technical and marketing support.

122. The IBM PC Company had begun negotiations with Microsoft for a Windows 95 license in late March 1995. For the first two months, the negotiations had progressed smoothly and at an expected pace. After IBM announced its intention to acquire Lotus, though, the Microsoft negotiators began canceling meetings with their IBM counterparts, failing to return telephone calls, and delaying the return of marked-up license drafts that they received from IBM. Then, on July 20, 1995, just three days after IBM announced its intention to pre-install SmartSuite on its PCs, a Microsoft executive informed his counterpart at the IBM PC Company that Microsoft was terminating further negotiations with IBM for a license to Windows 95. Microsoft also refused to release to the PC Company the Windows 95 „golden master“ code. The PC Company needed the code for its product planning and development, and IBM executives knew that Microsoft had released it to IBM's OEM competitors on July 17. Microsoft's pur­ported reason for halting the negotiations was that it wanted first to resolve an ongoing audit of IBM's past royalty payments to Microsoft for several different operating systems.

125. IBM never agreed to renounce SmartSuite or to increase its support for Microsoft software, and in the end, Microsoft did not grant IBM a license to pre-install Windows 95 until fifteen minutes before the start of Microsoft's of­ficial launch event on August 24, 1995. That same day, the firms brought the audit issue to a close with a settlement agreement under which IBM ultimately paid Microsoft $31 million. The release of Windows 95 had been postponed more than once, and many consumers apparently had been postponing buying PC systems until the new operating system arrived. The pent-up demand caused an initial surge in the sales of PCs loaded with Windows 95. IBM's OEM competitors reaped the fruits of this surge, but because of the delay in obtaining a license, the IBM PC Company did not. The PC Company also missed the back-to-school market. These lost opportunities cost IBM substantial revenue. 

A dalsi a dalsi a dalsi…

155. In contrast to other operating system vendors, Microsoft both refused to license its operating system without a browser and imposed restrictions — at first contractual and later technical — on OEMs' and end users' ability to remove its browser from its operating system. As its internal contemporaneous documents and licensing practices reveal, Microsoft decided to bind Internet Explorer to Windows in order to prevent Navigator from weakening the applications barrier to entry, rather than for any pro-competitive purpose.

158. Microsoft did manage to bundle Internet Explorer 1.0 with the first version of Windows 95 licensed to OEMs in July 1995. It also included a term in its OEM licenses that prohibited the OEMs from modifying or deleting any part of Windows 95, including Internet Explorer, prior to shipment. The OEMs accepted this restriction despite their interest in meeting consumer demand for PC operating systems without Internet Explorer. After all,Microsoft made the restriction a non-negotiable term in its Windows 95 license, and the OEMs felt they had no commercially viable alternative to pre-installing Windows 95 on their PCs. Apart from a few months in the fall of 1997, when Microsoft provided OEMs with Internet Explorer 4.0 on a separate disk from Windows 95 and permitted them to ship the latter without the former, Microsoft has never allowed OEMs to ship Windows 95 to consumers without Internet Explorer. This policy has guaranteed the presence of Internet Explorer on every new Windows PC system.

160. Microsof­t's executives believed that the incentives that its contractual restrictions placed on OEMs would not be sufficient in themselves to reverse the direction of Navigator's usage share. Consequently, in late 1995 or early 1996, Microsoft set out to bind Internet Explorer more tightly to Windows 95 as a technical matter. The intent was to make it more difficult for anyone, including systems administrators and users, to remove Internet Explorer from Windows 95 and to simultaneously complicate the experience of using Navigator with Windows 95. As Brad Chase wrote to his superiors near the end of 1995, „We will bind the shell to the Internet Explorer, so that running any other browser is a jolting experience.“

164. Starting with Windows 95 OSR 2, Microsoft placed many of the routines that are used by Internet Explorer, including browsing-specific routines, into the same files that support the 32-bit Windows APIs. Microsoft's pri­mary motivation for this action was to ensure that the deletion of any file containing browsing-specific routines would also delete vital operating system routines and thus cripple Windows 95. Although some of the code that provided Web browsing could still be removed, without disabling the operating system, by entering individual files and selectively deleting routines used only for Web browsing, licensees of Microsoft software were, and are, contractually prohibited from reverse engineering, decompiling, or disassembling any software files. Even if this were not so, it is prohibitively difficult for anyone who does not have access to the original, human-readable source code to change the placement of routines into files, or otherwise to alter the internal configuration of software files, while still preserving the software's overall functionality.

168. Once Maritz had decided that Allchin was right, he needed to instruct the relevant Microsoft employees to delay the release of Windows 98 long enough so that it could be shipped with Internet Explorer 4.0 tightly bound to it. When one executive asked on January 7, 1997 for confirmation that „memphis is going to hold for IE4, even if it puts memphis out of the xmas oem window,“ Maritz responded affirmatively and explained,


The major reason for this is . . . to combat Nscp, we have to [ ] position the browser as „going away“ and do deeper integration on Windows. The stronger way to communicate this is to have a ‘new release' of Windows and make a big deal out of it. . . . IE integration will be [the] most compelling feature of Memphis.

Thus, Microsoft delayed the debut of numerous features, including support for new hardware devices, that Microsoft believed consumers would find beneficial, simply in order to protect the applications barrier to entry.

Ano, neumis cist, vrat se na zakladni skolu. Z toho puvodniho clanku na Wiki:

During the antitrust case it was revealed that Microsoft had threatened PC manufacturers with revoking their license to distribute Windows if they removed the Internet Explorer icon from the initial desktop Hmmm… no comment.

Kde je mmj. i „Criticisms of the case …“.

Ano, Milton Freedman (R.I.P.), puvodne keynesianec, pote zaprisahly odpurce vladni regulace a zurivy zastance volneho rustu penezni zasoby. Kam volny rust (ryze virtualni penezni zasoby vede), to vidime dnes. Kam vede nekontrolovany monopol, to ukazuje napr. Microsoft.

Aha, no nic… Skoda casu. Je to podrobne vysvetleno v citovanem rozsudku soudu (cast o OEM distribuci), z nejz jsem citoval. Ze to nechapes nebo se umyslne tvaris jako debil, to je opravdu jenom tvuj problem.

Ano, zcela souhlasim. Ty tvoje prispevky jsou tak ubohe, ze by ses mel zacit venovat necemu uzitecnejsimu, napr. odchod do hospody, kde muzes zasvecene poklabosit se stamgasty a ohromit je svymi znalostmi antimonopolni legislativy. :P

Vše popsané je 1) subjektivní interpretace fakt, a 2) podle mě právně v pořádku. Každý supermarket má podobné spory s některými ze stovek svých dodavatelů. Kdybyste viděl, jak dodavatelsko-obděratelské vztahy v praxi fungují, ještě měsíc byste zvracel. Tak funguje business. Vy jdete do obchodu, tam si nakoupíte, ale nic ze zákulisí nevidíte.
Va vašem pojetí asi konkurence vypadá tak, že MS pozve pány z Netscape občas na čaj, hodí řeč jak by se to mělo dělat, MS svému konkurentovi garantuje místo ve svém produktu… A pak zakročí Komise Moudrých, protože jde o kartel :)

Vše popsané je 1) subjektivní interpretace fakt, a 2) podle mě právně v pořádku.

Ano, to nepochybne… Tak se vrat do sve galaxie a drz se daleko od vseho, co souvisi s pravem, pokud v galaxii Microsoftu nejake existuje. Tady pro sve extravagantni „vyklady“ antimonopolniho prava uplatneni opravdu nenajdes, tak hodne stesti jinde.

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